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    kemokae

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    Oh my!...here's an hot item Grits....

    Post  kemokae on Wed 09 Jun 2010, 8:06 pm

    Let me explain to you firstly....On the issue of Gen. Andrew Lewis...Annuals of
    Augusta Co., Va by the J. Lewis Peyton family...and this is also an Lewis family
    bio....Elizabeth Lewis m. first Mr. Luke, of Alexandria, Va., second Mr.
    Ball of Kentucky and thirdly Mr. Marshall of Ky..issue unknown. Of her family as
    brothers known, John Lewis m. Patsey Love of Alexandria, Va., Samuel Lewis m.
    Miss Whitely, of Col. Whitely of Ky, Charles Lewis m. a dau. of Gen Abraham Trigg of Va. (Later of KY.)

    Here is the "hot" item...found under Col. Thomas Marshall on an google
    search for genealogy....ready???...

    "this site is for those that want the TRUTH and OMG have we been lied to! ...clearly many Native Americans are involved with many broken Marshall trees.
    "Trader" Marshall is just one big mystery. The Marshall tree is intermarried with
    Shawnee, Wyandot, Cherokee..my current search is around Chief Ross. Family names such as Love, Colbert, Fountain/Fountaine. To get the answers, we must relearn
    the history we were force fed. There was no racism at one point. Someday I will
    find out who Col. John Marshall was...maybe he will be like George Lowery or John
    Ross?...Someday.. I will find out."

    This person sounds "angry" to me...I ran out of "memory" on my comptuer trying to access the file though..some 70,000 plus names...I have researched this family
    to some extent, because I need to find out who "Mr. Luke" is...to see if there was
    an William Luke(became William Larkin) at sometime, or if he was the same as William Lusk in other records. But I know in Pennsylvania there is the mention of "treasurer" of an John Lukens in someone paying an debt. I wonder now is this the "John Larkins" I have been told that was said to of one time been chosen an the tribe "treasurer" for the Cherokee when they were trying to set up the state of "Franklin" which became the state of Tenneessee...George Washington stopped that personally by sending Col. William Blount into the picture. Why?..because he wanted an "intergrated" country maybe?..or the Indian lands?..his son lost his in Bankruptcy after his death. Only an women's group saved "Mt. Veron" knowing its value to our history some day.
    What concerns me is the second marriage in above legacy.. is to an Ball (related
    to Washington) and the third marriage of the Marshall...my family left Illinois
    in an county that is now Marshall Co., Ill. Besides Col. John Strawn's (related to Racheal Reed m. Larkins) said military voucher land realestate adventures, no reason is known why the family is there at an time when it was extremely rural, Strawn was the first there..and looking it over I found it to been an area previously with Indian Mounds near by. I thought of an possible Native American influence also as to his father...he left there to come to Oregon and llive amoung the Mollala tribe(of later Warm Springs Res.)lands. Washington was known, from what I read last night, by Besty Ross way before she made the country's flag..he
    gave her the business of making his uniforms as she was widowed from her husband's
    death in the miltary. Chief JOhn Ross was an Native American raised by Scottish parents that adopted him named "Ross". I have an paper on the Faquier Co.,(area of Washington's first surveying job as an young lad) Va ... "Keith" family..Reverands from Europe by way of New Jersey/Pennsylvania at one time, traveling some came back through Virginia later on..they have that Abraham Martin was the wife of
    Elizabeth Keith the first time around...I think some people also call him Col. Ephraim Martin up in New Jersey also. This line may support my Eliza Ann (Keith) Berry m. Joshua Davis perhaps and widowed..m. James Glenn...of Augusta Co., Va removed during the war to be Govenor of South or North Carolina..I have them both in various papers. She is who I beleive starts my mother's Larkins-Davis line..which I come to find out is really an ancient and very old celtic line of Davies...that involves the celtic clan of "Baoli" in FRance and later into England Scotland, and Ireland. Family back east says this is not so, Elizabeth Davis m. as his second wife Rev. James Bruce Chenoweth, and "daughter" Sarah Ann was an line off an Thomas Davis marriage earlier. He had died. But some things they say are not comparing either on this Bowie-Davis..Pottinger line I found as they have it back to the Potts family that they sent me papers on. Indeed Geo. Washington knew this
    Bowie family also of old "Somerset" then Maryland fame.
    My particular line I beleive in goes..REV. Sanuel Davies..(wife said both an Mary Simpson and/or Mary Taylor) (my Larkin will has an William Taylor as an neighbor and witness to his will)... (Reeds are kin to the Purcell-Simpson line)....founder of "Princeton University" in New Jersey,..only son of Samuel (m. Ann Boyd) of Accomack co., VA to Augusta Co., VA...son named John in REV. WAR papers say the Indians killed his parents just before the outbreak of the Battle of Point Pleasant and he had to raise his brothers and sisters. From then on..many of these connected lines are "Issue unknown" for many involved. The Berry family are
    an host of "orphans" in part that the courts are taking care of in Chalkley's. It
    is Samuel Davis is one person helping to take care of them. Whom the Mr.Berry is that married Eliza Ann Keith by first name I have no idea, he may off been the one
    killed that all the kids are now seemingly orphans. Berry line m. Abe Lincon's family in Va. to Ky. They were Nancy Hanks uncle and Aunt and they posted bond for her marriage to Thomas Lincoln and became parents of Abe. We are also into whom our "Jame Larkins" was, and there is another "older" one involved also. AS his lineage brings into some of these names also, disputed by other records later on. We at this time can not "find" who his real childen are beyond an few of them. Yes, this lady is correct, there have been an lot of lies, perhaps..and for what reason, I have no idea...I would assume there must be an reason though...perhaps to appease the families that want an legacy and can't find it?...I've waited and researched 30 years now myself...I think the legacy of George Washington making me acknowledge
    the entire United States as free and bonded "countrymen" to each other. Only God does one better I think with us all being under him "spiritually". Just thought I'd throw this in to you for reading...I don't know if it interests you or not. Not to many people tell the "fustration" side of genealogy as clearly as does this posting.

    kemokae

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    Post  kemokae on Wed 09 Jun 2010, 8:27 pm

    I needed to add that Elizabeth Lewis's line..her father was JOhn Lewis m. Patsey Love of Alexandria, Va...son of Gen. Andrew Lewis m. Elizabeth Givens of Augusta Co., Va. in 1749..son of John Lewis. m. Margaret Lynn d. of Loch Lynn of Ireland, the first man in the territory and founding Augusta Co., Va...they were ORIGINALLY
    French Hugenots, and left FRance after the Edit of Nates in 1685 northward into Ireland, England and Scotland..before coming to America. John was amoung four other brothers, one stayed in Europe.

    The Robert Biesser's name I mentioned earlier...is indeed traveling with William
    the Conquorer as an "Knight" on an list I found. I might add that the name of
    "Robert" in Scoland was not to much known until Robert the Bruce came along as
    far as I can see so far. Now to read some "Celtic" history and it seems to be an
    lot centered around Druids and Wiccans...but it was much more then just that, as
    I was talking to an gal that was studying them in college one time for a term paper, and she discussed an bit about their "towers" out off in the ocean..she also thinks that they were either the race of "Atlanteans" or "Fisher Kings" from an perious world era, that lived "underground".. and the "Celts" were the rememants of some of them also. Must of been protection from the dinasours of the previous
    world era before even that...took them underground...SMASH, SMASH, DESTROY.."get your foot off my livingroon!"...had to get away from them somehow..laughs*
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    Re: Oh my!...here's an hot item Grits....

    Post  Grits on Wed 09 Jun 2010, 10:59 pm

    I did a quick search on "Indian Trader Marshall" and came up with this but this one is a William???:

    http://lenapedelawarehistory.net/mirror/wm_marshall.htm

    Maybe it will help. Please notice that there in an "Ingle" mentioned in the article.

    they were ORIGINALLY French Hugenots, and left FRance after the Edit of Nates in 1685 northward into Ireland, England and Scotland..before coming to America.

    My Hughey (Huit in French) family were also Huguenots and went to Ireland and then to America.

    Found this on "Find A Grave" and thought you might find it interesting...

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=22565&GRid=21455151&CScnty=87&CSsr=41&

    I'm going to keep Ancestry for another month, so I have more time to research...yea!

    I did some research for a friend the other night and his gggrandfather had kids with 5 different women and only married 2 of them... Shocked lol

    I had found a scandal in one line of my family, so now I don't feel so bad. Everybody's probably got at least one in their family... Rolling Eyes

    My son's dad was adopted but he later in life found his birth mother. I finally remembered to ask what her last name was, so I hope to do some research on her too...for Dale. We have no idea who the father of my ex was and she refuses to say, so her side is all Dale will know from that side...sigh

    Take care and happy researching...

    Very Happy

    kemokae

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    Post  kemokae on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 1:08 am

    Oh, that's good, yes, you should have an added bit of fun staying in Ancestory
    let me know what you can find, and how things are going for you. I think my hubby's family though called Anglen started out as Ingraham...and married Miller and I'm trying to find her maiden name right now. I think I had it an didn't get it written down. I generally try to find more then one source to quote on this work anyway if
    it's possible. Hubby's family was out of Lebanon, next town to Springfield, Mo.

    Sometimes you can take people for their information as to where they came from in those immigration records, sometimes you can't because what they really often mean is there was an ship that had dealings there, that they were riding on at the time...when it stopped for supplies. Other times it was truly docked there and the
    people came from "roots" thereof also. So when they say that they came from there and you can't find records of the family there, chances are they were passengers of another place. That is indeed the case of many of our French Hugenots that left
    France at the Edict of Nates...they left for Ireland, England and Scotland but they only stayed an brief while to keep earning money for passage to America. This is What the Baoli/Ballu people did apparently, but they came from one of the three
    original Clans of the Celts that covered mainly France but entire Europe also.
    This is what I have spent most my time learning, names with migrations routes. In
    time you can see where someone has made things up perhaps for their lineages...
    most often because they could not find the data, so they borrow it from another
    line...but to me it doesn't make "sense". That's what I said about an certain legacy, and some family researchers went to Salt lake, and found secondary information confirming what I had said prior. Not to long after that I managed to lose the abilty to get into "geneoforum". I was stopped in getting information
    from my e-mail servers also...where I had genealogy information on it also.
    I "must" say things the way someone wants them to be...or they literally stop my posting and contact with others.

    kemokae

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    Re: Oh my!...here's an hot item Grits....

    Post  kemokae on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 1:10 am

    Oh, that's good, yes, you should have an added bit of fun staying in Ancestory
    let me know what you can find, and how things are going for you. I think my hubby's family though called Anglen started out as Ingraham...and married Miller and I'm trying to find her maiden name right now. I think I had it an didn't get it written down. I generally try to find more then one source to quote on this work anyway if
    it's possible. Hubby's family was out of Lebanon, next town to Springfield, Mo.

    Sometimes you can take people for their information as to where they came from in those immigration records, sometimes you can't because what they really often mean is there was an ship that had dealings there, that they were riding on at the time...when it stopped for supplies. Other times it was truly docked there and the
    people came from "roots" thereof also. So when they say that they came from there and you can't find records of the family there, chances are they were passengers of another place. That is indeed the case of many of our French Hugenots that left
    France at the Edict of Nates...they left for Ireland, England and Scotland but they only stayed an brief while to keep earning money for passage to America. This is What the Baoli/Ballu people did apparently, but they came from one of the three
    original Clans of the Celts that covered mainly France but entire Europe also.
    This is what I have spent most my time learning, names with migrations routes. In
    time you can see where someone has made things up perhaps for their lineages...
    most often because they could not find the data, so they borrow it from another
    line...but to me it doesn't make "sense". That's what I said about an certain legacy, and some family researchers went to Salt lake, and found secondary information confirming what I had said prior. Not to long after that I managed to lose the abilty to get into "geneoforum". I was stopped in getting information
    from my e-mail servers also...where I had genealogy information on it also.
    I "must" say things the way someone wants them to be...or they literally stop my posting and contact with others.
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    Re: Oh my!...here's an hot item Grits....

    Post  Grits on Sat 26 Jun 2010, 2:13 am

    I've had a horrendous week at work and have been too tired to do much research this week and my foot is really bothering me too, but I'll see the podiatrist on Tuesday and hopefully find a solution for that ailment...sigh

    I did find a line that goes back to the Plantagenets on my father's maternal side. So far all the royal lines in my family are on my father's side. He would have taken great pleasure in that if he had known that before he died...lol

    Mom's side were just hard working regular folks it appears...

    I also did a bit of research last week for my son. I lucked out and found his paternal grandmother's wedding announcement and it listed her parents and from that I was able to trace her family back to Swiss and German origin. My son was very curious about that side as his father was adopted so finding this gives him some answers for one side of his father's true bloodline. We don't know who the birth father is for my ex so we'll never know about that part of it...sigh

    My son is doing really well and heads for a 28 day treatment program on Tuesday. I'm hoping the counseling there will help him. He doesn't have a drug problem so much as an emotional problem, and having gone through treatment programs myself when I was younger, I know they helped me with a lot of my emotional issues, so say a prayer if he comes to mind that he'll get a good counselor...

    I hope to do some research tomorrow...

    Talk soon...


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