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    Post  Kelli Marie Fri 05 Mar 2010, 3:41 am

    I am sorry to see so little interest expressed about international affairs on these boards. Only four threads have more than three responses. Many if not most have received no responses at all. The level of visitations is also low compared to other boards.

    Perhaps this is a reflection of deep concern about matters in our own economy. Maybe it's a reflection of that side of our national personality that says the United States is the be all and end all.

    I don't know. But it makes me sad.
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    Post  johnl Fri 05 Mar 2010, 6:22 am

    hi km,

    The regulars have been posting a lot of national and international news and comments at earthboppin. There were a lot of natl and internatl posts at LIAHO and Earthwatchers before mr bopp opened up National and International.

    Most of the posters here seem to be the gentler, sympathetic types, but still thought-provoking, except for maybe Zuma and me. Zuma has a thought-provoking post about pyramid energy. There was a kind of humorous thread at LIAHO, starting with mr bopp’s post:

    http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/anything/messages/9033.html

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    you wanks are clogging up this board with political crap, so the national and international boards have been re-opened...play nice or there will be a fast hook...

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    It’s still hard to tell how permanent the re-opening of earthboppin will be. The Dreams board is also open.

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    Post  RIG Fri 05 Mar 2010, 12:52 pm

    Perhaps you could post some International subjects that you find important... just a thought... Suspect
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    Post  Bill Silver Eagle Fri 05 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm

    I believe it is a mixture of things, many of the posts are articles about what has happened in various places around the world, and I think some are "gun-shy" about posting comments about articles because they have been flamed on Earthboppin' for various remarks of their personal opinion. Second, many are reaching the point of apathy around the globe, because no matter how loudly they voice their opinion to elected officials, they are largely ignored. To my limited knowledge of everyone here, and at Earthboppin' we only have participants from the United States and Canada; and in both countries the economy is at the top of nearly everyone's priority, so that they may survive.

    My perception is that many are more concerned about fixing the issues here at home before we jaunt off to fix the world. When the Chilean earthquake hit, we had many posters sharing info from twitter, facebook, CNN, etc. Further when the Chilean President at first indicated that they had things under control and needed no foreign assistance, the wind was taken out of the sails of many who would have been there to provide assistance; only to have the Chilean President after/during SecState Clinton's visit indicate they would accept foreign assistance.

    I could be wrong, but it appears many might agree that past and present federal policy on foreign disasters has been one of going in and taking over control of the situation, instead of what neighbors do, "what can I do to help?" Many nations around the world, IMO, seem to view the United States federal government as a bunch of pompus self-serving asses, who are looking for a reason to take advantage of any situation.

    I looked through almost all the posts here on international, many I felt needed no comment. Others I felt inclined to put in my two-bits. All things work in a cyclical manner, whether we want to accept or believe it. So at the present when the federal health care monstrosity bill is at the forefront, many are concerned and focused there, NOT TO MENTION, many in this country are still wondering where their next meal may come from, or will they still have their home, because of the unemployment situation.

    There are so many domestic and international issues on the table at the present, to comment on everything merely becomes distracting to what is likely important to me, to you, to JohnL, to MountainGirl, etc. I guess you might consider it much like the saying about choosing your battles wisely.
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    Post  Kelli Marie Fri 05 Mar 2010, 6:30 pm

    Bill Silver Eagle wrote:There are so many domestic and international issues on the table at the present, to comment on everything merely becomes distracting to what is likely important to me, to you, to JohnL, to MountainGirl, etc. I guess you might consider it much like the saying about choosing your battles wisely.

    I agree that the recession dominates the concerns of all and with good reason.

    Battles don't interest me, but concrete, reasonable exchanges do. Most Americans don't care about affairs over the borders and seem not to grasp that this country does not exist in splendid isolation. Posters and lurkers have passed through Bopp's boards from time to time but rarely last. I think that may be because a lot of Americans don't like to hear what others think about them and our country.

    Because of the mellower, more adult tone here, I'd hoped things might be a little different and sat back to watch before starting threads myself. Kinda the same.

    No site can be all things to all people, even those as sweeping as this one and Bopp's.
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    Post  Bill Silver Eagle Fri 05 Mar 2010, 10:07 pm

    These types of forums and boards serve a sort of purpose to exchange information and ideas. In many ways you could or can consider it a micro-casm of North American Society and opinions. To some I think these types of boards are some peoples versions of an afternoon or morning soap opera.

    Whether the topic be international, national, earthwatching, etc., everyone has their niche, just like in movies. Now what would truly be an interesting activity for the NSA would be a sort of data mining of various keywords that appear in the thousands if not millions of boards like these around the world. I would think if the powers that be were really concerned about what issues their constituents were concerned about, a keyword mining process could give a potential insight. Of course whether or not they would accept the data or still go on believing that they know better than their constituents is another thing.
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    Post  jeffersonzuma Fri 05 Mar 2010, 10:55 pm

    *They* data mine/mind boards like these to keep an eye on uppity citizens they feel a fear of and a need to destroy.

    Most of the time we uppity-ones are provided with constant messages to the effect that the people don't care, will betray you for a nickel, and won't give a rat's ass if you are torched to death or bulldozed under..

    jolly good folks aren't they? But it's just another anecdote told by the living.. whose reward it is too feel sorrow for the ones making bad karma while we're being raped in real time by these recipients of our tax hierarchy...

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    Dead White Women: Which Ones Matter Most?
    Column by Douglas Herman, posted on October 09, 2005
    in OtherThe same media circus over a dead white woman occurred recently with the murder of beautiful Taylor Behl. Another gruesome murder and the mainstream media on the scent like a rabid dog. Sex and abduction and murder. All the news stations carried footage from the crime scene. Over and over again. Beautiful White Woman Murdered In SEX-Related Slaying.

    Simpson, Holloway and Behl. And before that the shocking, sensational, sex-related murder of a beautiful, white American woman (and her baby) by her husband in California. Seems Scott Peterson was having an illicit sexual affair. Like the other cases, the US media had a field day with the Laci Peterson investigation. Some people even called it the "Case of the Century," and the investigation went on for months.

    Surprisingly, one beautiful, white, American woman murdered by a madman went mostly unreported by our watchdog mainstream media. Why? Not because she wasn't as beautiful and full of life as Taylor Behl. Not because she wasn't as blonde and attractive as Natalee Holloway (indeed, she resembled Holloway). Not because she wasn't murdered in a foreign land, like Holloway. Then why didn't the mainstream media jump all over the story like a pack of crazed jackals?

    Maybe because Rachel Corrie got killed--crushed to death--by an Israeli soldier representing the power of the state. The death of Corrie was an embarrassment to the cozy relationship of the US and Israel governments and thus the complicit mainstream media mostly ignored it. With a war with Iraq coming, more sensational news stories captivated the media.

    Unlike Simpson, Holloway and Behl, Corrie was murdered by one state and ignored by another. Instead of scandalous sex, Corrie got killed for defending some poor Palestinian's humble home. What should have been a major story represented an embarrassment to two governments. The complicit US media, obediently kept on a short leash to Israel's interests, dutifully ignored the story. Not surprisingly, the Israeli soldier who drove the bulldozer was found innocent.

    I suppose, in the grand scheme of things, the only dead white women who matter to the American mainstream media are the beautiful, lively, white girls killed in "tragic" sex-related slayings who resemble the attractive women reading the news. Even a beautiful white activist like Rachel Corrie, who foolishly got herself crushed protecting some poor person's shack, doesn't matter to FOX or MSNBC because she was indelicately involved in protecting rights that embarrassed two governments rather than killed by a jealous lover. Instead of dying in some sex-related slaying, Corrie died protecting some invisible person, a Palestinian, a person no more important than a dead dog in the street.

    So if you're a white woman and you get killed or murdered--God forbid--better hope sex is involved. Otherwise you're a nobody and you might as well be black or brown.

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    Post  Tiempe Sat 06 Mar 2010, 4:15 am

    Hi All,

    Just catching up on the forum here. flower

    Feelings from others and the Jeffersonzuma story prompts me to write.

    We are living in a weird world when news stories are centered around who was thrown off The Idol Show. Or what Sarah Palin has written on her palm.

    How could anyone take the time to check out what is happening in other countries?? Hah!

    And where would we find the info? And which info is the truth? And who's truth?

    One saying I remember: "The world does not revolve around you!"

    But it does...everything you think and do and approve of makes this world go around.

    When you are more accepting of mockery and hate and war and you condone vengeance and exploitation...then the world is what you have made it.

    Nobody...no soul gets away scott free when they do evil, condone evil, abet evil. Neither do they get away scott free when they do good, condone good, abet good. sunny

    It's hard to be at peace when evil acts are done and people are hurt or killed. But we cannot know the outcome of events or who is at fault and when retribution and justice are meted out.

    But the meting out does happen...sometimes not in our lifetime...but it happens.

    3 dimensional life is not the end all be all for our actions. Those who would do evil must feel the evil that they have done...not just the pain in the flesh...but the pain in the soul which is much longer lasting and so much more hurtful. A hell made by the evildoers themselves. And they will KNOW they are doing it to themselves!

    We are all connected. We cut off our noses to spite ourselves. We look in a mirror and see ugly when beauty is to behold.

    Our creativity and love is infinite...our evil and malice is limited...there will come a time when we will all see this.

    So...bloom where you are planted...do good when you can. Stand in front of a tank if you have the strength.

    No good deed goes unpunished in this 3 dimensional play...but no good deed or bad deed goes unnoticed in the real world...the lighted world...our home world.sunny

    These are my thoughts on the National and International and Universal and Multiversal, etc. etc.

    Much love to all.

    Tiempe.

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    Post  Dona Sat 06 Mar 2010, 4:31 am

    I think you all are nuts for we had real good threads going on even some here commented.
    Really,data mining,we all do that for we want to know when that last day arrives not to subjugate others zummah...lol.
    Anyway,I thought this site was great but seems the dissatisfaction is resembles ourselves,nothing more.
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    Post  RIG Sat 06 Mar 2010, 1:05 pm

    Zuma... thanks for the refresh on Rachel Corrie... she was TrueHeart... a BraveHeart!... standing up to one of the Greatest Evils on this planet...

    Dona... the Data mining was a ref to TPTB... and this site IS great, the dissatisfaction is as you say, it is in the mirror of those saying such...

    KM... "Most Americans don't care about things beyond our borders etc..." (paraphrased)... I completely agree with you, although will add that it's been that way for generations... Hell, humanity has been that way since the beginning... most folk are most concerned with events within their direct sphere of influence, their home, town/city, county, region... anything beyond is not their concern (until it comes knocking on their door)...
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    Post  Bill Silver Eagle Sat 06 Mar 2010, 2:13 pm

    If my comments left anyone with the perception that I was dissatisfied with the goings on here, at Earthboppin or any of the other boards I participate in, that is an incorrect perception.

    The mixture of opinions and interests of others I find, shall I say "stimulating" and "thought provoking". While I don't have to agree with everything everyone posts, I do respect and accept everyone's opinion, even when it differs from mine. Let's face it where else but on these types of boards do we get access to such a diverse view of information and data from which we can accept, we can refute, or we can dig deeper into the subject.

    Let's face it some of us have had experiences in life that no one else has, some of us have been in government in the executive branches (including the military), some have been directly involved in the legislative branches (including being a lobbyist), and the list goes on. Yet there are also the other side, those who have been the average citizen, husband, wife, homemaker, small business owner, assembly line worker, etc. All these things are what makes America who we are today.

    As "Zuma" pointed out the PTB probably do "data-mine" these types of web boards, unfortunately for the wrong reasons, that being control and subjugation, instead of intelligence on the pulse and opinion of its citizens.

    Maybe I'm naive, but regardless of everything going on around the world, I still believe that this country, the USA, is still the best place in the world to live, work and retire. Yes we have our issues, our adversities, our personal deficiets in character even to the highest levels of society. Show me another country, where a 52 year old non-combat Veteran who was medically disabled, can own/have a mortgage on 40 beautiful acres of rural land, to work towards the goals of their personal dreams. A place where all of society can come and learn, and participate in a part of culture, tradition, and living history of a fragment of society that has been often times brushed under the rug.

    Sure there are many "hard-liners" on all sides of the cultural, traditional, and historial positions of society. Many have argued that history has no-bearing on the present or the future, I respectfully disagree. As the generational tree continues to grow with each new generation, blood-lines, culture, tradition and history become more and more watered down, and to some even irrelevant. How we think, react, live in the present, while being a subset of our behavior and how we were raised, the choices we have made in our past, must also include the subset from our genetics.

    Just after the recent Vancouver Olympics I made a post about the displays exhibited by the participating athletes, and commented about how it was a sorry situation that elected leaders or those who have just taken authority can't learn from those athletes.

    I'm rambling now ... so I'll shut up
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    Post  Lar Sat 06 Mar 2010, 3:33 pm

    Kelli Marie wrote:Most Americans don't care about affairs over the borders and seem not to grasp that this country does not exist in splendid isolation. Posters and lurkers have passed through Bopp's boards from time to time but rarely last. I think that may be because a lot of Americans don't like to hear what others think about them and our country.

    I have to agree Kelli Marie. I am not American and can honestly say I have felt the "cold shoulder" of some Americans. Why, I don't know, perhaps just a dislike of Canadians. Likely I have said something that offended someone, sometime, somehow. I really don't know. Perhaps it's a disinterest in what anyone outside of American borders think or have to say. I can say that if the post is political in nature then look out; it's almost as though I should not have an opinion about the politic'ng that goes on south of us.

    I read a poster saying Canadians are arrogant or something to that effect; and was troubled by that. Is this perceived arrogance, really something else? Each of us have our own problems, and can lash out at another on those "off" days. When one encounters foreign travelers, you do get that arrogant feeling from the traveler. Cnadians are generally peaceful caring and polite, so why "white wash" all, from a bad past experience(s).

    I also see a seemingly alliance of those from the west US verses say the east. Don't know why. Do they feel that the EB site belongs to them (West coasters) and opinions of anyone ouside of the area are not welcome? Confusing; perhaps will never know.
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    Post  Dona Sun 07 Mar 2010, 5:29 am

    RIG wrote:Zuma... thanks for the refresh on Rachel Corrie... she was TrueHeart... a BraveHeart!... standing up to one of the Greatest Evils on this planet...

    Dona... the Data mining was a ref to TPTB... and this site IS great, the dissatisfaction is as you say, it is in the mirror of those saying such...

    KM... "Most Americans don't care about things beyond our borders etc..." (paraphrased)... I completely agree with you, although will add that it's been that way for generations... Hell, humanity has been that way since the beginning... most folk are most concerned with events within their direct sphere of influence, their home, town/city, county, region... anything beyond is not their concern (until it comes knocking on their door)...

    RIg,you are a great person that still has a balanced mind despite the uproar and constant hit on the senses.
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    Post  Kelli Marie Sun 07 Mar 2010, 5:53 am

    Lar wrote:
    Kelli Marie wrote:Most Americans don't care about affairs over the borders and seem not to grasp that this country does not exist in splendid isolation. Posters and lurkers have passed through Bopp's boards from time to time but rarely last. I think that may be because a lot of Americans don't like to hear what others think about them and our country.

    I have to agree Kelli Marie. I am not American and can honestly say I have felt the "cold shoulder" of some Americans. Why, I don't know, perhaps just a dislike of Canadians. Likely I have said something that offended someone, sometime, somehow. I really don't know. Perhaps it's a disinterest in what anyone outside of American borders think or have to say. I can say that if the post is political in nature then look out; it's almost as though I should not have an opinion about the politic'ng that goes on south of us.

    I read a poster saying Canadians are arrogant or something to that effect; and was troubled by that. Is this perceived arrogance, really something else? Each of us have our own problems, and can lash out at another on those "off" days. When one encounters foreign travelers, you do get that arrogant feeling from the traveler. Cnadians are generally peaceful caring and polite, so why "white wash" all, from a bad past experience(s).

    I also see a seemingly alliance of those from the west US verses say the east. Don't know why. Do they feel that the EB site belongs to them (West coasters) and opinions of anyone ouside of the area are not welcome? Confusing; perhaps will never know.

    You really got me to thinking, neighbor. It's turning into an essay. Will post tomorrow.

    Many thanks.
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    Post  RIG Sun 07 Mar 2010, 12:39 pm

    Dona wrote:
    RIG wrote:Zuma... thanks for the refresh on Rachel Corrie... she was TrueHeart... a BraveHeart!... standing up to one of the Greatest Evils on this planet...

    Dona... the Data mining was a ref to TPTB... and this site IS great, the dissatisfaction is as you say, it is in the mirror of those saying such...

    KM... "Most Americans don't care about things beyond our borders etc..." (paraphrased)... I completely agree with you, although will add that it's been that way for generations... Hell, humanity has been that way since the beginning... most folk are most concerned with events within their direct sphere of influence, their home, town/city, county, region... anything beyond is not their concern (until it comes knocking on their door)...

    RIg,you are a great person that still has a balanced mind despite the uproar and constant hit on the senses.

    Thank you... I think... although Balance is something I strive for, especially in this age of constant uproar... yet it's something I constantly question about myself... scratch Neutral
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    Post  RIG Sun 07 Mar 2010, 12:48 pm

    Lar wrote:
    Kelli Marie wrote:Most Americans don't care about affairs over the borders and seem not to grasp that this country does not exist in splendid isolation. Posters and lurkers have passed through Bopp's boards from time to time but rarely last. I think that may be because a lot of Americans don't like to hear what others think about them and our country.

    I have to agree Kelli Marie. I am not American and can honestly say I have felt the "cold shoulder" of some Americans. Why, I don't know, perhaps just a dislike of Canadians. Likely I have said something that offended someone, sometime, somehow. I really don't know. Perhaps it's a disinterest in what anyone outside of American borders think or have to say. I can say that if the post is political in nature then look out; it's almost as though I should not have an opinion about the politic'ng that goes on south of us.

    I read a poster saying Canadians are arrogant or something to that effect; and was troubled by that. Is this perceived arrogance, really something else? Each of us have our own problems, and can lash out at another on those "off" days. When one encounters foreign travelers, you do get that arrogant feeling from the traveler. Cnadians are generally peaceful caring and polite, so why "white wash" all, from a bad past experience(s).

    I also see a seemingly alliance of those from the west US verses say the east. Don't know why. Do they feel that the EB site belongs to them (West coasters) and opinions of anyone ouside of the area are not welcome? Confusing; perhaps will never know.

    "arrogant"... the actual term used was "superior"... and as BCShe pointed out, the populations of the US and Canada should be taken into consideration... pirat

    As for an East vs. West situation, there is a bit of a disconnect in our (US) society that is an east west thing, yet is more than that when looked at regionally... in regards to the east west issue with the boards (EB and the others that have sprung up), I don't know if I'm seeing that as this board (Boppin' Along) seems to have collected a wide variety of folk from all over the continent... Hel, I even saw somebody on here from Norway the other day... Wink

    edit to add... Lars, nice Eye of Horus by the way!... cyclops
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    Post  Kelli Marie Mon 08 Mar 2010, 6:28 am

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    I read a poster saying Canadians are arrogant or something to that effect; and was troubled by that. Is this perceived arrogance, really something else? Each of us have our own problems, and can lash out at another on those "off" days. When one encounters foreign travelers, you do get that arrogant feeling from the traveler. Cnadians are generally peaceful caring and polite, so why "white wash" all, from a bad past experience(s).

    I also see a seemingly alliance of those from the west US verses say the east. Don't know why. Do they feel that the EB site belongs to them (West coasters) and opinions of anyone ouside of the area are not welcome? Confusing; perhaps will never know.

    Hi, Lar

    I hear you.

    I don’t think Americans dislike folks of other nationalities so much as they resent anyone who expresses an impression of America that is at odds with how they (we) see themselves (ourselves).

    For a supposedly developed nation, we Americans are singular in our introspection, self-absorption and self-criticism.

    The ignorance of many Americans about the rest of globe and our transient place in human history continues to stun and disappoint me. We seem to lack a sense of place, of having a place in the world community rather than being apart and above.

    My career afforded me the opportunity to visit many other countries and do a lot of listening and reading, to observe the interaction of individuals of dozens of non-American nationalities. Over the decades I’ve thought and read a lot about this disconnection. Alone in the Americas, my countrymen lack this sense of commonality. It’s taken me a long time to formulate a theory as to why, something many friends and business associates have wondered as well.

    Take your country as an example. I used to think that Canada’s fidelity to the Commonwealth was folly. After all, we Americans had thrown the Brits out lock, stock and barrel. Now, living so close to your country that on a clear day I can see your shores from my deck, my radios have only one push button setting for an American station. The rest are Canadian.

    Unless something awful happens “over there,” America’s cable news stations cover only American stories. Canadians look beyond themselves. Canadian broadcasting reflects this. In part I think this results from your membership in the Commonwealth.

    Our national personalities are certainly viewed as near opposites by people on other continents.

    -- Americans are aloof; Canadians are team players
    -- Americans are brash and arrogant; Canadians are courteous
    -- Americans talk big; Canadians quietly get things done
    -- Americans throw their weight around; Canadians don’t -- but when the chips are down they’re always there.
    -- In America the English language is rapidly deteriorating; in Canada people still know the difference between an adverb and an adjective and their subjects most likely agree with their predicates (ah, but the disintegration of American English is for another essay)

    Obviously neither you nor I will see or be able to orchestrate changes in national behaviors that are the result of centuries of development. At least, having a sense of why and how this singular American attitude developed brings some comfort.

    Both my country and yours emerged mostly from the British Colonial Empire, Yes, part of Canada was colonized by the French and a huge chunk of ours was part of the Spanish Colonial Empire, but the underlying cultural and legal influence was British.

    Each of our countries span “from sea to shining sea,” one face toward Europe, the other toward Asia. Those two great oceans gave us both a sense of isolation. We down here south of the border still cling to that false sense of isolation. Canada has flowed with the tide of change in communication and transportation.

    I suspect that sense of singularity and superiority of which we Americans are strongly suspected is shared only with Russia, China and Japan.

    Anyway, I’m glad you Canadians are present on the boards.

    As for the east-west division, it’s no greater a split than the east-west division in Canada. I haven’t been in the Prairie Provinces of your country, but I’ve been in BC, Alberta, Ontario, Quebec and New Brunswick. I’ve also traveled my own country up, down, and crosswise several times. I think the only two states I haven’t been to are Alabama and Mississippi. Regional differences and misconceptions fascinate me. Sometimes I think we are the opposite of Europe which spent centuries devoted to wars whilst solidifying their own nationalities and then discovered the blessings of regional cooperation.

    And I am beginning to ramble. Must be tired.

    One last thought: both Canada and the United States were part of European imperial expansion. Only one of us grew up to have imperial desires.
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    Post  johnl Mon 08 Mar 2010, 9:06 am

    hi KM, you made a good, concise comparison between the US and Canada.

    One of the significant points in your post was:

    “Sometimes I think we are the opposite of Europe which spent centuries devoted to wars whilst solidifying their own nationalities and then discovered the blessings of regional cooperation.”
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    Outside influences might’ve tried to make the US an assimilated, multi-cultural society, whereas Canada maintained more of an ethnic uniqueness, resulting in more personal responsibility in upholding the high ground of their ethnic identity.

    That reminds me of the old radio drama series, “Lorenzo Jones” – starring Mercedes McCambridge, in which her husband suddenly disappeared and left a cryptic note:

    “O ye'll tak' the high road and I'll tak' the low road, An' I'll be in Scotland afore ye;”

    I can’t find anything about it on the internet. It’s not a Lorenzo Jones comedy skit of the 1950’s.

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    Post  RIG Mon 08 Mar 2010, 1:58 pm

    Soon none of the US/Canada issues will matter much... under the surface, behind the scenes, and old brief easily forgotten for the next great piece of news... with various treaties signed (cafta/nafta etc.) and with the advent of 911 pushing a reformation of strategic military control and operations regarding the North American continent and it's airspace (enter Northern Command)... Mexico, Canada, and the US are only individual nations because all the maps and textbooks haven't been changed yet...

    Reagarding other nations viewpoints of the US (which are valid, no doubt), here's a news article from last Friday showing some regional problems for the European Union and old wounds...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/weekinreview/07kulish.html?ref=world
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    Post  melinda Tue 09 Mar 2010, 4:40 am

    RIG wrote:Soon none of the US/Canada issues will matter much... under the surface, behind the scenes, and old brief easily forgotten for the next great piece of news... with various treaties signed (cafta/nafta etc.) and with the advent of 911 pushing a reformation of strategic military control and operations regarding the North American continent and it's airspace (enter Northern Command)... Mexico, Canada, and the US are only individual nations because all the maps and textbooks haven't been changed yet...

    Reagarding other nations viewpoints of the US (which are valid, no doubt), here's a news article from last Friday showing some regional problems for the European Union and old wounds...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/weekinreview/07kulish.html?ref=world


    actually...all yall are seeing is farms...slaves work these farms.

    massa gifts a dab o freedom...so the slaves quiet down and work on the farms.

    o yembe~

    yall gots ya license and ya name tag....slavin for little daddy....

    no, i cannot gift my eye to yall so ya see what my eye see.

    i can only confuse yall more by sayin~

    i reckon, i won't post here neither.

    for yall all seem to know all things.

    yet, ya see nothing
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    Post  RIG Tue 09 Mar 2010, 3:56 pm

    melinda wrote:
    RIG wrote:Soon none of the US/Canada issues will matter much... under the surface, behind the scenes, and old brief easily forgotten for the next great piece of news... with various treaties signed (cafta/nafta etc.) and with the advent of 911 pushing a reformation of strategic military control and operations regarding the North American continent and it's airspace (enter Northern Command)... Mexico, Canada, and the US are only individual nations because all the maps and textbooks haven't been changed yet...

    Reagarding other nations viewpoints of the US (which are valid, no doubt), here's a news article from last Friday showing some regional problems for the European Union and old wounds...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/weekinreview/07kulish.html?ref=world


    actually...all yall are seeing is farms...slaves work these farms.

    massa gifts a dab o freedom...so the slaves quiet down and work on the farms.

    o yembe~

    yall gots ya license and ya name tag....slavin for little daddy....

    no, i cannot gift my eye to yall so ya see what my eye see.

    i can only confuse yall more by sayin~

    i reckon, i won't post here neither.

    for yall all seem to know all things.

    yet, ya see nothing

    There is seeing, and then there is Seeing (not speaking about Seers Visions either)... I agree with you, this particular conversation isn't Seeing... it's seeing only what They want us to see... as Slaves...

    Now, I find it unfortunate that these Times are wearing us all down to the point we start turning on ourselves, Dove, that's the last thing we need to be doing... it's something TPTB are counting on, always have! (yes, I know, I've been guilty of it myself although I am trying to change that)...

    I think you are a voice of Great Wisdom here among this group of folk... we would be less without you... yet, if you do leave, I wish you well in the Time to come...

    RIG
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    Post  Bill Silver Eagle Wed 10 Mar 2010, 12:28 am

    I believe all of you have identified the situation, the cause and the effects. Even with our information technology, whether these boards, cable and satellite news, our multi-tasking whatchmacallit cellphones with more applications that many of our computers, in many ways its a form of sensory overload.

    During the brief period Ryan shut down Earthboppin, and we migrated here, there appeared to be more congeniality and more thought provoking responses instead of the ineundo and mudslinging. Then the Chilean Earthquake. Many of us were providing nearly realtime updates from our sources. We were working as a coheisive group of individuals sharing information. However since the Chilean Earthquake, as I posted on Earthboppin's Earth Groan's board, there has been a sense of disconnectedness, personally. Though today at the VA shrink, my doc said that over the last couple weeks a number of clients were reporting the same feelings.

    Let's face it we know so little about this cloak we wear as a body for our spirit/soul/psyche. Considering the reports of events of what Mother Earth has experienced during and since the Chilean Earthquake, Conception moving west, rotation slowing by microseconds, etc. Just the natural physical events themselves in/on this planet, even going back to the super-canes of Charlie, Frances, Jeannie, Katrina, Ivan, Wilma, etc., then the Indoneisian Christmas quake ...

    Now add to that that according to most science our brain operates on electrical impulses. So if the earth's electro-magnetic field is out of wack .. it I would think knock us out of wack too.
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    Post  melinda Wed 10 Mar 2010, 3:44 am

    ~silver eagle~

    i know that all i know is not out of whack.

    i walk

    with life

    i walk
    in nature

    i walk with hell in my face daily.

    hell... is the mean people

    o yembe

    look me in my face and eyes

    see me

    my heart and my kens

    i am dove

    yet, i am tired

    no longer happy walking

    more like sad walking

    o yembe

    working...working.. working with all my heart

    i am

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