I went to your "link" and some of it I have different information on, for instance
I have that Benjamin Hawkins was an "Land speculator" in his day...not to say he
may not of also been an Indian agent...as they ususally got ahold of land through treaties with the Indians. He has the apparent long time "thought" of black people being "lazy"..but subjected people little more then an "object" and treated as such
are much like that in temperment..raped against their will by everyone male, including their own, the woman had little to look forward to, the men often beaten
at times if they had not an wealthy kind landowner over them, most likely feared reprisal at every "self-action" they tried to posses perhaps. They had absolutely no "voice" in anything. Reminds me of the Drug Cartels in Mexico right now, and also the past history of some of the Russians individual states. I can understand how John Brown would say that "human slavery" needed to be wiped off the face of the earth...for all races and creeds...world-wide.
According to the Cherokee Application book these people are Creek Indians and have
nothing to do with the Cherokee...and were rejected by them...they list these family
names..Billy Weatherford, Peggy Bailey, William and Chilly Macintosh, and Alexander
McGillvary, and those claming through the names of McGhee, Hollinger, McIntosh,
Moniac, Franklin or Gilliam families. This book called "Patriarch" on George Washington has considerable to say about McGillvery..who is said to been an Scot trader married to an Creek woman from the prestigious family known as Wind. Washington entertained this man,as well as the Creeks lavishly in New York with liquor and women and gifts hoping he'd stop interferring with the Spanish down in New Orleans in helping him unite the Creeks with their northern Native American neighbors, and British...and hurting the American cause to taming the frontier borders. In short Washington knew he could little win an Revolutionary War if the Indians, British, and Spanish were united. They seem to hint perhaps an kind of
"black-mail" ensued by McGillvery later on for more wealth, using the "Spanish"
if need be in New Orleans, something the British didn't mind at all to favor their cause in the war then either. The Creeks lived south of the Cherokee I understand, and thier towns were literally wiped out with the Cherokee at the same time, in one huge forced march of the United States army. They have their own "Creek Files" with the Federal Government. As for McGillvary he died apparently before things really got testy down south, perhaps was the recongization of Washingotn that we'd either end up someday fighting the Spanish..or else we'd better buy their territory if we want to keep the country in whole(Louisanna Purchase)...but I do have his name as immigrating to America up north in my records of New Jersey...before making it down in to Creek Territory. I also have one, rather him or not, as an clothing tailor/fur trader perhaps. (I wonder how much Benjamin Hawkins was not also an Benjamin Larkins/Martin..and I have an Hugh Larkin with the Kennedy family and in immigration with McGillveray having landed here from the same ship). Reports from Col. James Martin's family say that Benjamin was an land-spectulator also (or was he?)...but we know the family was into buying up land for George Washington back then to set up an chain of "Forts" just prior to the Rev. War era...one of the first things Washington did as Commander of the Army...by then he knew to well people needed protected from the out-numbered Indians in their warring days, and needed fortified with each other as an "Nation". So goes "United we stand, Divided we fall"...it still applies also..esp in reguard to the Drug Lord's south of us right now on our borders and infiltrating our country. AS an country, we need to be protected from within its confines...the FBI has joined forces with the Native
American Reservations these days to stop them...most reservations have intertribal police that are few, these Drug Lords can run over thier teritority growing and smuggling drugs through them...it is perfect ground for them to "obtain" of their own needs. I think many Native Americans are now understanding this perhaps.
I have that Benjamin Hawkins was an "Land speculator" in his day...not to say he
may not of also been an Indian agent...as they ususally got ahold of land through treaties with the Indians. He has the apparent long time "thought" of black people being "lazy"..but subjected people little more then an "object" and treated as such
are much like that in temperment..raped against their will by everyone male, including their own, the woman had little to look forward to, the men often beaten
at times if they had not an wealthy kind landowner over them, most likely feared reprisal at every "self-action" they tried to posses perhaps. They had absolutely no "voice" in anything. Reminds me of the Drug Cartels in Mexico right now, and also the past history of some of the Russians individual states. I can understand how John Brown would say that "human slavery" needed to be wiped off the face of the earth...for all races and creeds...world-wide.
According to the Cherokee Application book these people are Creek Indians and have
nothing to do with the Cherokee...and were rejected by them...they list these family
names..Billy Weatherford, Peggy Bailey, William and Chilly Macintosh, and Alexander
McGillvary, and those claming through the names of McGhee, Hollinger, McIntosh,
Moniac, Franklin or Gilliam families. This book called "Patriarch" on George Washington has considerable to say about McGillvery..who is said to been an Scot trader married to an Creek woman from the prestigious family known as Wind. Washington entertained this man,as well as the Creeks lavishly in New York with liquor and women and gifts hoping he'd stop interferring with the Spanish down in New Orleans in helping him unite the Creeks with their northern Native American neighbors, and British...and hurting the American cause to taming the frontier borders. In short Washington knew he could little win an Revolutionary War if the Indians, British, and Spanish were united. They seem to hint perhaps an kind of
"black-mail" ensued by McGillvery later on for more wealth, using the "Spanish"
if need be in New Orleans, something the British didn't mind at all to favor their cause in the war then either. The Creeks lived south of the Cherokee I understand, and thier towns were literally wiped out with the Cherokee at the same time, in one huge forced march of the United States army. They have their own "Creek Files" with the Federal Government. As for McGillvary he died apparently before things really got testy down south, perhaps was the recongization of Washingotn that we'd either end up someday fighting the Spanish..or else we'd better buy their territory if we want to keep the country in whole(Louisanna Purchase)...but I do have his name as immigrating to America up north in my records of New Jersey...before making it down in to Creek Territory. I also have one, rather him or not, as an clothing tailor/fur trader perhaps. (I wonder how much Benjamin Hawkins was not also an Benjamin Larkins/Martin..and I have an Hugh Larkin with the Kennedy family and in immigration with McGillveray having landed here from the same ship). Reports from Col. James Martin's family say that Benjamin was an land-spectulator also (or was he?)...but we know the family was into buying up land for George Washington back then to set up an chain of "Forts" just prior to the Rev. War era...one of the first things Washington did as Commander of the Army...by then he knew to well people needed protected from the out-numbered Indians in their warring days, and needed fortified with each other as an "Nation". So goes "United we stand, Divided we fall"...it still applies also..esp in reguard to the Drug Lord's south of us right now on our borders and infiltrating our country. AS an country, we need to be protected from within its confines...the FBI has joined forces with the Native
American Reservations these days to stop them...most reservations have intertribal police that are few, these Drug Lords can run over thier teritority growing and smuggling drugs through them...it is perfect ground for them to "obtain" of their own needs. I think many Native Americans are now understanding this perhaps.