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    burnedmyrrh

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    Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  burnedmyrrh on Fri 30 Apr 2010, 7:10 pm

    I had a dream last weekend that was very weird. Now with this whole oil spill in the GOM affecting those six states...today I started wondering if the dream had to do with what is going on. I had posted it at earthboppin but we all know what happened with the hacker troll and what was done...

    In my dream there were these cascading pools of ugly, dirty water and these freaky fish that totally freaked me out in the dream. And there were also these Middle Eastern dressed in red, like Knights of the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland. And one of them wanted to throw me in the water. That freaked me out. Finally he took me to hallway at the end of which were 3 other ME looking men in the same garb. Finally one guy came to save me and took me to this island in Miami where I was safe.

    Another part of a long dream happened on 04/05, where I was intently and carefully looking at a map of the Gulf area from TX to AL and paying attention to all of the town names, though I couldn't remember them after I woke up.

    And now this oil spill ... I think both of these dreams were warnings! God help me that to this day, a lot of times, I STILL CANNOT FIGURE OUT THE TRUE MEANING OF THE WARNINGS IN MY DREAMS! There are times when it's plain for me, but with a few exceptions, lately, forget it. I need other's interpretations
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    melinda

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    Re: Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  melinda on Mon 03 May 2010, 1:30 am

    o gosh! they have poisoned the water!

    they have poisoned the fish that folk eat.

    they did this on purpose...i seen em do it.

    they use they telly visions and they papers of news...for to tell a lie of what they have done.

    this is an false flag operative action.

    for they did this on purpose.

    they are doing it still as i type~

    mean people...them with no life

    $$$$$ be they ready god thingy

    look at 'em..all settin' and worshipping the lie of they very mammon hearts.

    belive love and do that with all yall being

    alrighty

    love be the umph
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    Betty in Texas

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    Re: Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  Betty in Texas on Mon 03 May 2010, 2:09 am

    In their relentless search for black gold, BP went too far. From what I am getting, they may have punched through the crust of the earth into an area where the oil was under such extreme pressure that it blew the top off the platform and caused the explosion. Bill Silver Eagle on EB has a good piece posted on how they quite possibly punched all the way through the crust by drilling 30,000 feet (5.8 miles deep). Under the crust is the magma layer. Lies are being told apparently as to the real extent of how much oil is being released. We hear reports of 5000 barrels a day to 200,000 or more. I read that this oil is not "light sweet" oil but a heavy emulsion of nasty stuff. It certainly will poison our seas and our shorelines.

    The damage that it is doing to the oxygen production is also not being told. Yes...It could have been sabotage--a foreign power like Korea or China...or even Greenpeace...or political powers at home who want to see the cap and trade bill passed. There are a lot of people who would love to see BP go down...it has a pretty bad safety record. But for anyone to be that desperate to see the carbon tax passed...to endanger the whole world from this spill...well it is hard to imagine anyone that ruthless...but then again we had Hitler didn't we? And there are people who will kill others to prevent abortions. Sometimes it is amazing the extent some people will go to prove a point.
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    Prayers for a "Miracle" in the Gulf

    Post  Dreemz on Mon 03 May 2010, 5:03 pm

    What a horrific environmental, eco-system catastrophe

    This is so very disheartening, very deeply saddened...

    Prayers for a "Miracle" in the gulf Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
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    RE:Gulf Oil Spill "True Catastrophe" for Wildlife in many states

    Post  Dreemz on Tue 04 May 2010, 2:57 pm

    www.huffingtonpost.com
    www.timesonline.uk

    Deepwater Horizon: Conservationists warn of 'true catastrophe' for wildlife

    Oil drifting ashore along the Gulf of Mexico coastline will affect key breeding grounds for seabirds as well as fisheries, wildlife bodies say

    Deepwater oil spill

    Booms have been deployed in a bid to prevent the flow of oil leaking from the Deepwater rig reaching the Louisiana coastline. Photograph: Liz Condo/AP

    Conservationists monitoring the spread of oil from the Deepwater Horizon rig across the Gulf of Mexico say the situation is at risk of turning into a disaster for the biodiversity in the area. Coastal areas around Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida will all potentially be affected by the spill.

    Oil that drifts ashore will impact on important breeding grounds for seabirds and many other species, according wildlife experts. Oyster and lobster fisheries could also be badly hit.

    "It seems to me yet another man-made environmental tragedy on our hands," said Martin Spray, chief executive of the UK Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust. "The coast of Louisiana has about 40% of the US coastal wetlands so it's a seriously important area. These are incredibly important for their fisheries as well, so there are human livelihoods involved as well."

    "The terrible loss of 11 workers may be just the beginning of this tragedy as the oil slick spreads toward sensitive coastal areas vital to birds and marine life and to all the communities that depend on them," said Melanie Driscoll, a conservation director based in Louisiana for the US National Audubon Society (NAS). "For birds, the timing could not be worse - they are breeding, nesting and especially vulnerable in many of the places where the oil could come ashore."

    Efforts to stop the oil before it reached shore may not be enough, she said. "We have to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst, including a true catastrophe for birds."

    Chris Mann of the Pew Environment Group said: "The Exxon Valdez oil spill provided a mass of scientific data on how oil affects marine life, ecosystems, coastal communities, fisheries and subsistence economies – the effects extend far beyond the inevitable photographs of seabirds, marine mammals and fish covered in oil."

    Important bird habitats at risk in the Gulf of Mexico include Chandeleur Islands, Gulf Islands National Seashore in Louisiana and Mississippi and the Active Delta in Louisiana.

    The brown pelican, the state bird of Louisiana, nests on islands in the Gulf of Mexico and its breeding season has already started this year. The NAS said many pairs are already incubating eggs. Other species at risk include terns and gulls that nest on the beach, including the Caspian tern, royal tern, laughing gull and the black skimmer. These birds roost on the beaches and also plunge into the water to feed on fish and other marine life. They are therefore at risk from oil on the surface of the water or if it washes ashore.

    Similarly, the American oystercatcher, Wilson's plover and snowy plover feed on invertebrates on the beach and could find their sources of food at risk if oil ends up on their sands.

    Ocean-dwelling birds such as the magnificent frigatebird could also be affected by oil on the surface of the water that could damage their feathers.

    Migratory birds such as plovers and sandpipers are currently on their way from wintering grounds in South America to their breeding grounds near the Arctic. They usually rest and refuel in the Gulf of Mexico on their long journey across the world.

    If the oil flows east, it will encounter the seagrass beds that form a key habitat for manatees, among other species.

    Carl-Gustaf Lundin, head of the marine programme at the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) told the BBC: "If you've got seagrass beds badly contaminated, clearly the manatees could be seriously affected." Less than 2,500 adult manatees remain in the area and are already at risk from climate change and disturbance by boat traffic.

    Mann said that the effects of the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska in 1989 can still be found along the beaches in Prince William Sound more than 20 years after the accident. "And research has shown that polyaromatic hydrocarbons - components of crude oil that are highly resistant to weathering - are also highly toxic to marine life."

    The accident could also been seen as a warning for those wanting to drill for oil in the Arctic circle, around Alaska. "With decades of experience in drilling in the gulf, and response equipment nearby, the gulf is one of the 'safest' places to drill," said Mann. "If Deepwater Horizon can happen there, it can certainly happen in the Arctic Ocean, where bitter cold, ice, and extreme wind and wave conditions are everyday facts of life and response equipment would be days or even weeks away."
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    Re: Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  melinda on Thu 06 May 2010, 2:47 am

    everybody is hoppin' up and down...wanting to drill for oil offa my north carolina.

    o mercy!

    do we the people and folk, not have a say in all of this hell and mess?

    there do be a way to life...that does not cause destruction.

    it may limit profits...yet, profit can be had.

    10n trillion versus 50 million...what gives?

    how much death is needed for these greedy basterds?

    ~melinda~ the idiot poet
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    Petition:Tell Obama to Stop New Offshore Oil Drilling.

    Post  Dreemz on Fri 07 May 2010, 6:42 pm

    Melinda and everyone,

    Posting as an FYI only, have you heard about this? "Petition to tell Obama to stop new offshore oil drilling"...

    http://www.change.org/petitions/view/tell_obama_to_stop_new_offshore_oil_drilling
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    Make BP pay for everything

    Post  Dreemz on Sat 08 May 2010, 12:00 pm

    Only a hue and cry will force the government to make BP pay for everything. Better to seize the company and nationalize it, but only we the people can demand that. Politicians beholden to Big Oil will never do that on their own. This may become an unprecedented disaster requiring all our efforts to salvage the Gulf and beyond. Is this a call to action? You bet it is. You choose the actions, but choose wisely. Even if this one gets contained, it is just a matter of time before there is another incident unless the status quo is changed.
    Mac McKinney. www.macmckinney.com

    May 6, 2010 -- BP and White House Conspire to Cover-up Mega-disaster
    WMR has been informed by sources in the US Army Corps of Engineers, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and Florida Department of Environmental Protection that the Obama White House and British Petroleum (BP), which pumped $71,000 into Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign -- more than John McCain or Hillary Clinton, are covering up the magnitude of the volcanic-level oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico and working together to limit BP's liability for damage caused by what can be called a "mega-disaster."
    Obama and his senior White House staff, as well as Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, are working with BP's chief executive officer Tony Hayward on legislation that would raise the cap on liability for damage claims from those affected by the oil disaster from $75 million to $10 billion. However, WMR's federal and Gulf state sources are reporting the disaster has the real potential cost of at least $1 trillion. Critics of the deal being worked out between Obama and Hayward point out that $10 billion is a mere drop in the bucket for a trillion dollar disaster but also note that BP, if its assets were nationalized, could fetch almost a trillion dollars for compensation purposes. There is talk in some government circles, including FEMA, of the need to nationalize BP in order to compensate those who will ultimately be affected by the worst oil disaster in the history of the world.

    Plans by BP to sink a 4-story containment dome over the oil gushing from a gaping chasm one kilometer below the surface of the Gulf, where the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded and killed 11 workers on April 20, and reports that one of the leaks has been contained is pure public relations disinformation designed to avoid panic and demands for greater action by the Obama administration, according to FEMA and Corps of Engineers sources. Sources within these agencies say the White House has been resisting releasing any "damaging information" about the oil disaster. They add that if the ocean oil geyser is not stopped within 90 days, there will be irreversible damage to the marine eco-systems of the Gulf of Mexico, north Atlantic Ocean, and beyond. At best, some Corps of Engineers experts say it could take two years to cement the chasm on the floor of the Gulf. One Corps of Engineers official said, "We're fucked, Obama won't do anything."

    Only after the magnitude of the disaster became evident did Obama order Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to declare the oil disaster a "national security issue." Although the Coast Guard and FEMA are part of her department, Napolitano's actual reasoning for invoking national security was to block media coverage of the immensity of the disaster that is unfolding for the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Ocean and their coastlines.

    From the Corps of Engineers, FEMA, the Environmental Protection Agency, Coast Guard, and Gulf state environmental protection agencies, the message is the same: "we've never dealt with anything like this before."

    The Obama administration also conspired with BP to fudge the extent of the oil leak, according to our federal and state sources. After the oil rif exploded and sank, the government stated that 42,000 gallons per day was gushing from the seabed chasm. Five days later, the federal government upped the leakage to 210,000 gallons a day. However, WMR has been informed that submersibles that are monitoring the escaping oil from the Gulf seabed are viewing television pictures of what is a "volcanic-like" eruption of oil. Moreover, when the Army Corps of Engineers first attempted to obtain NASA imagery of the Gulf oil slick -- which is larger than that being reported by the media -- it was turned down. However, National Geographic managed to obtain the satellite imagery shots of the extent of the disaster and posted them on their web site.

    The photo NASA was forced not to release to Army Corps of Engineers and FEMA -- now available at National Geographic, it shows massive extent, as of May 2, of oil spill -- it is much larger than that depicted on maps being shown on corporate news channels.
    There is other satellite imagery being withheld by the Obama administration that shows what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be around the size of Mount Everest. This information has been given an almost national security-level classification to keep it from the public, according to our sources.
    The Corps and Engineers and FEMA are quietly critical of the lack of support for quick action after the oil disaster by the Obama White House and the US Coast Guard. Only recently, has the Coast Guard understood the magnitude of the disaster, dispatching nearly 70 vessels to the affected area. WMR has also learned that inspections of off-shore rigs' shut-off valves by the Minerals Management Service during the Bush administration were merely rubber-stamp operations, resulting from criminal collusion between Halliburton and the Interior Department's service, and that the potential for similar disasters exists with the other 30,000 off-shore rigs that use the same shut-off valves.
    The impact of the disaster became known to the Corps of Engineers and FEMA even before the White House began to take the magnitude of the impending catastrophe seriously. The first casualty of the disaster is the seafood industy, with not just fishermen, oystermen, crabbers, and shrimpers losing their jobs, but all those involved in the restaurant industry, from truckers to waitresses, facing lay-offs.
    The invasion of crude oil into estuaries like the oyster-rich Apalachicola Bay in Florida spell disaster for the seafood industry. However, the biggest threat is to Florida's Everglades, which federal and state experts fear will be turned into a "dead zone" if the oil continues to gush forth from the Gulf chasm. There are also expectations that the oil slick will be caught up in the Gulf stream off the eastern seaboard of the United States, fouling beaches and estuaries like the Chesapeake Bay, and ultimately target the rich fishing grounds of the Grand Banks off Newfoundland.
    WMR has also learned that 36 urban areas on the Gulf of Mexico are expecting to be confronted with a major disaster from the oil volcano in the next few days. Although protective water surface boons are being laid to protect such sensitive areas as Alabama's Dauphin Island, the mouth of the Mississippi River, and Florida's Apalachicola Bay, Florida, there is only 16 miles of boons available for the protection of 2,276 miles of tidal shoreline in the state of Florida.
    Emergency preparations in dealing with the expanding oil menace are now being made for cities and towns from Corpus Christi, Texas, to Houston, New Orleans, Gulfport, Mobile, Pensacola, Tampa-St.Petersburg-Clearwater, Sarasota-Bradenton, Naples, and Key West. Some 36 FEMA-funded contracts between cities, towns, and counties and emergency workers are due to be invoked within days, if not hours, according to WMR's FEMA sources.
    There are plans to evacuate people with respiratory problems, especially those among the retired senior population along the west coast of Florida, before officials begin burning surface oil as it begins to near the coastline.
    There is another major threat looming for inland towns and cities. With hurricane season in effect, there is a potential for ocean oil to be picked up by hurricane-driven rains and dropped into fresh water lakes and rivers, far from the ocean, thus adding to the pollution of water supplies and eco-systems.
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    the real impact is

    Post  beejean on Sat 08 May 2010, 1:24 pm

    Dreemz wrote:Mac Mackinney
    May 6, 2010 -- BP and White House Conspire to Cover-up Mega-disaster
    They add that if the ocean oil geyser is not stopped within 90 days, there will be irreversible damage to the marine eco-systems of the Gulf of Mexico, north Atlantic Ocean, and beyond. At best, some Corps of Engineers experts say it could take two years to cement the chasm on the floor of the Gulf.

    From the Corps of Engineers, FEMA, the Environmental Protection Agency, Coast Guard, and Gulf state environmental protection agencies, the message is the same: "we've never dealt with anything like this before."

    The photo NASA was forced not to release to Army Corps of Engineers and FEMA -- now available at National Geographic, it shows massive extent, as of May 2, of oil spill -- it is much larger than that depicted on maps being shown on corporate news channels.
    There is other satellite imagery being withheld by the Obama administration that shows what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be around the size of Mount Everest.

    What are the sea creatures supposed to do now?
    What are the sea creatures thinking right now?
    Dread .. "Here it comes, creeping closer and closer, a big tide of muck that fills our home with a stench and makes it impossible to breathe and find food."
    The plants and the creatures of the deep are being overwhelmed with a bad poisonous muck.

    It is a reminder of what happened when a volcano blew in America centuries ago and the land animals (dinosaurs) were found dead by the watering hole because of the toxins that dissolved in their water and lay on the plants and the ground. Now, we are the ones who set loose a tide of disaster. What a sorrowful fortnight it has been. How long can this go on and allow the ocean to get filled with a slimy toxic waste???
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    Re: Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  Betty in Texas on Sun 09 May 2010, 11:01 pm

    [quote="Dreemz"]Only a hue and cry will force the government to make BP pay for everything. Better to seize the company and nationalize it, but only we the people can demand that. Politicians beholden to Big Oil will never do that on their own.

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    I realize that everyone is really pissed at BP but nationalizing is not the answer to any business. Sorry but it is a terribly wrong, completely erroneous step toward socialism, then communism...and those forms of government just do not work.

    Besides that, the idiocracy in Washington is not capable of running a Nevada whorehouse so how could they run an oil company which incidentally is based in another country?

    As long as we do not have term limits and have re-elected officials, we will have political corruption caused by corporate bribery in the form of political contributions. The candidates are bought before they ever set foot in office. There is no good or honest politician. Please understand this. They cannot be trusted...any of them. It is time you people learn that. You have little control of what goes on in Washington. The majority of business is conducted behind closed doors or on the golf course or at expensive luncheons complements of corporate America. Monopolies are the problem and that law was thrown out during the Reagan years. When corporations become too big, they are a threat to us all.
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    Gulf Oil "spill" (Disaster) volunteers website info

    Post  Dreemz on Wed 12 May 2010, 4:57 pm

    wish they call it what it is:"DISASTER!"

    http://www.oilspillvolunteers.com/index.php
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    Re: Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  Betty in Texas on Thu 13 May 2010, 2:10 am

    I think we are going to be in for one hell of a ride. I saw the underwater pics tonight on the news and it looks like a copious amount of gas (methane) is coming out of that pipe besides the oil. The gas could prove to be the worse case scenario...lightning strike, an electrical spark whatever...sets the Gulf on fire. Also saw the effects that removing all this gas & oil is having on the fault lines...the New Madrid was mentioned on some internet sites.

    Being from an oil state, the Houston area which supplies many of the oilwell platforms in the Gulf is already suffering. Production has been shut-down or scaled back already in many areas said an industry spokesman tonight on the news. The moratorium on drilling also will have an effect on the industry.

    He said get ready for gasoline shortages, high energy costs and a domino effect that will put our already suffering economy in a tailspin. I'd keep my car full of gas if I were you.
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    picvtures of the oil mess...i put this on myspace before i left for the coast.

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    U.S. agency overseeing Oil drilling ignored warnings of risks

    Post  Dreemz on Mon 24 May 2010, 6:05 pm

    U.S. agency overseeing oil drilling ignored warnings of risks

    By Juliet Eilperin. www.washingtonpost.com
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, May 24, 2010; 11:47 AM

    The federal agency responsible for regulating offshore oil drilling repeatedly ignored warnings from government scientists about environmental risks in its push to approve energy exploration activities quickly, according to numerous documents and interviews.

    Minerals Management Service officials, who receive cash bonuses for meeting federal deadlines on leasing offshore oil and gas exploration, frequently altered their own documents and bypassed legal requirements aimed at ensuring drilling does not imperil the marine environment, the documents show.

    This has dramatically weakened the scientific checks on offshore drilling that were established under landmark laws such as the Marine Mammal Protection Act and the National Environmental Policy Act, according to those who have worked with MMS, which is part of the Interior Department.

    "It's a war between the biologists and the engineers," said Thomas A. Campbell, who served as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's general counsel under George H.W. Bush. "They just have a very different worldview, and sometimes the engineers simply don't listen to the biologists."

    MMS officials in both Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico have instructed agency scientists to avoid triggering environmental reviews that would delay drilling.

    When scientists elsewhere in the federal government, such as NOAA and the Marine Mammal Commission, have tried to raise red flags under both the Bush and Obama administration, their calls have gone largely unheeded.

    Last year, for example, federal marine mammal experts warned the MMS that it had minimized the environmental risks of drilling when assessing the impact of auctioning leases in four areas in Alaska's Beaufort and Chukchi seas.

    MMS officials did not respond, although they are required under law to either adopt the recommendations from the experts or explain within 120 days why they rejected them. Their draft analysis was not finalized before the administration postponed further action on lease sales in March.

    MMS officials also ignored the advice of its staff experts. In 2006, then-MMS biologist Jeff Childs provided a detailed analysis of how the Exxon Valdez spill had harmed generations of fish in Prince William Sound, and how a future spill could do the same in the Beaufort Sea. But Childs's conclusion that "a large oil spill . . . is likely to result in significant adverse effects on local [fish] populations requiring three or more generations to recover" would have forced MMS to conduct a full Environmental Impact Statement before auctioning off a lease there.

    "I have concerns about Jeff's analysis and will not insert it into the [Environmental Assessment] being sent to HQ at this time," wrote Deborah Cranswick, chief of the environmental assessment section at MMS, in a June 23 e-mail to her Alaska colleagues. "I believe that Regional management needs to review it first because Jeff has concluded new significant impacts from oil spills. This will trigger an EIS -- and thus delay the lease for at least a year."

    Six days later, Paul Stang, Alaska MMS regional supervisor for leasing and the environment, sent a hand-written note to Childs saying, "As you know, a conclusion of significance under NEPA means an EIS and delay in sale 202. That would, as you can imagine, not go over well with HQ and others."

    When Childs balked at deleting the finding, another manager rewrote it so that the lease process could move ahead without delay. The government held the sale in April 2007, receiving $42 million in bids from Shell, Conoco, BP, ENI Petroleum U.S., and Total E&P USA. Native American groups unsuccessfully challenged the sale in court, and part of Shell's Beaufort exploration plan for this summer includes lease blocks from sale 202.

    MMS staff analysts encountered similar resistance after reviewing the exploration plan Shell submitted for the Beaufort Sea in 2007. One predicted "the proposed action has the potential to cause significant impacts to a variety of protected wildlife resources." Another wrote: "Shell's exploration plan lacks sufficient detail and makes unreasonable conclusions; the details it does provide are disturbing." The agency approved the plan.

    "Both in the case of MMS and NOAA, there's this agency culture that their job is to protect oil and gas activity," said Layla Hughes, senior program officer for the World Wildlife Fund's Arctic policy.

    MMS actions are shaped in part by the 2005 regulation it adopted that assumes oil and gas companies can best evaluate the environmental impact of their operations.

    The rule governing what information MMS should receive and review before signing off on drilling plans states: "The lessee or operator is in the best position to determine the environmental effects of its proposed activity based on whether the operation is routine or non-routine."

    MMS acknowledged in a May 2000 draft environmental analysis of deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, "The oil industry's experience base in deepwater well control is limited," and that a massive spill "could easily turn out to be a potential showstopper for the [Outer Continental Shelf] program if the industry and MMS do not come together as a whole to prevent such an incident." But when it finalized the document that same month, it jettisoned those two statements and concluded there was no need to prepare an Environmental Impact Analysis for deepwater drilling: "Most deepwater operations and activities are substantially the same as those associated with conventional operations and activities on the continental shelf."

    In an interview Friday, Interior Deputy Secretary David Hayes acknowledged that MMS had made decisions that lacked scientific justification but said the administration had put Arctic leasing on hold and enlisted U.S. Geological Survey scientists to ensure future decisions had scientific integrity.

    "There are certainly historical issues there that we're interested in addressing and reforming," Hayes said. "I think we're in the process of getting a cultural change in the scientific part of MMS. We're making sure the science is not a means to an end, but an independent input to the process."

    When asked why MMS did not comply with the law, Interior spokeswoman Kendra Barkoff replied, "We are going to continue to be aggressive in our reform agenda to ensure that all laws are followed."

    But this pattern of dismissing biologists' input has continued under the Obama administration. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration must issue a permit to energy companies when their activities could affect marine mammals and judge whether companies have established adequate programs to monitor and minimize their impact on these species.

    Last June, an NOAA review panel issued a scathing critique of Shell Exploration and Production Co.'s plan to conduct an open-water marine survey in Alaska's Chukchi Sea. There "are no clearly stated 'scientific objectives' " in Shell's proposal, wrote Sue Moore from NOAA's Office of Science and Technology. "The plan makes a number of misleading statements that should be brought to the attention of the authors," wrote Tim Ragen, the Marine Mammal Commission's executive director.

    But NOAA's Office of Protected Resources gave Shell the permit, without demanding modifications. Ragen said MMS has consistently minimized the environmental risks of offshore energy exploration.

    "Policymakers need to know we don't have perfect information on many aspects of oil and gas operations. In essence, we're playing a game of probabilities involving significant uncertainty," he said. But the commission gets no "feedback on our recommendations, so I don't know how much attention they get."
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    Robert Kennedy Jr. files suit against BP Oil (RE:Gulf)

    Post  Dreemz on Mon 24 May 2010, 6:50 pm

    www.politicol.com/Robert/Kennedy/Jr./Files/lawsuit/against/BP Oil/for/gulf/oil/spill

    so far, 100 lawsuits and rising...

    Attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr along with other lawyers filed a 17 page lawsuit against BP Oil for leaking oil into the Gulf of Mexico damaging shoreline along the four states and for damaging the fishing industry.

    The leak had been misreported in the media days ago when it was thought that only 5,000 gallons were spilled per day which was again incorrectly report as it turns out the oil is more than 200,000 gallons per day and it is being blown to the south coast shore of the USA.

    Robert Kennedy Jr Files Lawsuit Against BP Oil for Gulf Oil Spill

    The suit represents the fishing industry and the first suit was filed by 2 commercial shrimpers from Louisiana which research and experts have said the wetlands will never be rid of the oil -ever. This means the wetlands will be poisoned with oil that cannot be removed at any cost but the clean up alone after the oil is stopped will be into the billions and billions of dollars.

    The best practices of a corporation also would have BP Oil claim that the US government did not require oil rigs to have a safety shut off valve although other European countries do make that required by their laws. The US under the Bush administration did a favor for his oil friends and dropped the requirements. However, this does not mean that BP oil could not be intelligent enough to not lose its own oil -and put a shut off valve on the rig or the oil rig owner Deepwater Horizon Company.

    It would not have taken billions of dollars to install a blow out preventer on the rig which is installed to prevent an explosion and this would have saved the oil from spilling into the ocean. As there are thousands of rigs in the Gulf of Mexico now, this should be quickly installed into law by the Obama administration but they haven’t thought of that yet.

    The obligation of an oil company is to extract oil in the most ecological manner and there are eco laws that BP would have known about since they have a barrage of lawyers on staff.

    If for any reason BP should have had a shut off valve if only to stop any loss of oil for its bottom line profits, losing oil into the ocean is not profitable. The device is used on oil rigs internationally and BP Oil is an international company and you would think that they would have a safety valve on each and every rig they own, leased or rented or used in any location.

    TAGS: Robert Kennedy Jr Files Lawsuit against BP Oil, Lawsuits against BP Oil, oil rigs, BP Oil no valves on oil rigs, Oil spill could have been avoided, shrimp industry files lawsuit against BP Oil.

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    melinda

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    cheap, clean, natural way to mop up all of that oil....

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    Re: Gulf Oil Spill

    Post  kemokae on Fri 04 Jun 2010, 6:20 pm

    Are you possibly ready for the long haul on this?...I invite you to go over to
    Jim Berkland's web site at sygyzyjob.com and under Jim Berkland's board read the article with links on "Did they drill into an mud volcano?"..he says yes, the author of this article, and sites several links to this..there are four in the Gulf of Mexico and they have drilled in everyone of them, he says one map
    has the singnature of "BP" on it. He claims that the reason they can't "cap" this
    oil spill is because the pressure they are fighting is not just off the "pipe" broken, but "geo-thermal" activity within the volcano itself. How that affects what
    Kelly Sweeney had to say the other night on coast, not sure, but its also speculation at this time that the broken pipe below ground is emitting only particial oil to the top, and they think there's another source of the remainder of the oil coming out of the pipe below ground...coming out near the pipe also...so it's two leaks, not just one.
    If both theories are correct, they may never get the thing stopped until they can
    somehow release the pressure...it would take an complete new drilling of it and they say that's not conceivable until August when Hurricane season is over. Now
    some people also say it's impossible to have an hurricane season with this oil laying on the bottom of the ocean...as it keeps the temperatures colder then normal.
    The oil is so thick, the water can't slosh around as in an normal hurricane also
    and help it build up energy in the atmosphere. I guess we will have to wait and see.
    I know everyone most likely needs to be trying to feed and water the birds in the
    area though and for some years to come until it is cleaned up. Good luck on that one.

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